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Koko, I'd add "0. hello"
3. indeed
a : if you talk about norwegian for example, "æ" is not a diphtong but a letter.
b : I can't think of any "ae" in french, nor in spanish.
c : I'm not sure "ae" is a diphtong (rather 2 vowels) in latin (in caecus, caelum...), since teachers taught me that all letters were pronounced independently.
d : If you think about the "english" "maestro", it's an italian word so it's not an english rule of pronounciation.
3. indeed
a : if you talk about norwegian for example, "æ" is not a diphtong but a letter.
b : I can't think of any "ae" in french, nor in spanish.
c : I'm not sure "ae" is a diphtong (rather 2 vowels) in latin (in caecus, caelum...), since teachers taught me that all letters were pronounced independently.
d : If you think about the "english" "maestro", it's an italian word so it's not an english rule of pronounciation.
Kto ne kurit i ne p'yot, tot zdoroven'kim pomret.
In English, to my knowledge, it is generally pronounced as the "ee" in "speed".
Æsop
encyclopædia
On the other hand, there is "æsthetic". Perhaps, like every other letter in English, there is no way of knowing, other than knowing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and forgive me if that was not your question.
Æsop
encyclopædia
On the other hand, there is "æsthetic". Perhaps, like every other letter in English, there is no way of knowing, other than knowing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and forgive me if that was not your question.
"Heureusement que j'aime pas les épinards..."
Oxford's pronounciation is also a long "i" in that one. But it's a US english word. In fact, US pronounciation of the others you mentionned is what you were thinking in US english for aesthetic. So probably US speakers tend to pronounce aesthetic "e...".Parasha wrote: On the other hand, there is "æsthetic"
Another thing is that in the french english dictionary, there's no "æ" in the words you mentionned. There are ligatures in the french words which I know need them in french, in the same dictionary. Not sure the ligatures are needed in english.
Well I'm tired so what I'm wrtiting makes even less sense than usual.
Kto ne kurit i ne p'yot, tot zdoroven'kim pomret.
Sorry? I do not understand your meaning.frantsuz wrote:In fact, US pronounciation of the others you mentionned is what you were thinking in US english for aesthetic. So probably US speakers tend to pronounce aesthetic "e...".
Well, yes. Most of the time the ligature is dropped. It is a relic of some sort, but I don't know the whole story as it relates to English. It is just as accepted to write "encyclopedia", and much kinder to ourselves. Saves people the embarassment of saying something like "encyclopAYdia" or "AYsop". I myself have committed the latter offense.fratsuz wrote:Another thing is that in the french english dictionary, there's no "æ" in the words you mentionned. There are ligatures in the french words which I know need them in french, in the same dictionary. Not sure the ligatures are needed in english.
What does the thing serve in French? I know I've come across it before, but I've forgotten.
Parasha
"Heureusement que j'aime pas les épinards..."
Ae in french is proununced like independant letter : A-E like in aéroport.
It can also be pronunced like è or ai in latin words : Super-novae [syper nove].
So ae is not important in french, it do not really denote a special sound.
It can also be pronunced like è or ai in latin words : Super-novae [syper nove].
So ae is not important in french, it do not really denote a special sound.
J'ai pas trouvé de nouvelle signature pour l'instant mais ça va venir.