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DM anglais
Posted: 20 Feb 2007 21:10
by S-Dir
Bonjour a tous, j'ai un devoirs d'anglais à rendre vendredi et s'il y aurait des gens sympa pour me corriger mes fautes et m'aider se serait super merci d'avance pour votre aide.
SUJET: "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
John Lennon and Yoko Ono
It's a song...
Traduction + parole:
http://licorne.jmt.free.fr/musique/shee ... sbsly.html
(PS, si les liens sont interdit merci de bien vouloir les enlever, vu que ceci n'est pas de la pub et que c'est pour un devoir je me suis permis de mettres ces liens)
QUESTION 1: What do you konw about john lennon's origins? What are this position and mood in the song and how do you explain them?
Ma réponse:
John Lennon was born in Liverpool, he was a 20th-century English songwriter, singer and instrumentalist who gained worldwide fame as one of the founders of The Beatles.
The singer think the English and Scottish should to keep Ireland for the Irish. He was horrified by the died of thirteen civilians in derry and he denounce this crime troughout this song. Lennon lament the hardships of war-torn Northern Ireland in "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
QUESTION 2: Are the date of the song and the title of the album relevant?
The John Lennon album "Some Time In New York City" features a song entitled "Sunday Bloody Sunday", inspired by the incident in Derry in 1972. This album was protucted in 1972.
Posted: 20 Feb 2007 21:15
by S-Dir
QUESTION 3 : Match each of these sentences with on verse of the song:
A- Instead of being independent, Ireland is occupied by patriotic british people.
B- British soldiers, none of whom were injured, were to blame fot the kinllings
C- To free the Irish from the cruel oppression of the state or the church, loyalists must be sent to britain.
D- Protestants, who are less numerous than Catholics, are far from finding a solution to the Irish porblem.
je n'ai pas encore réfléchi a la question, merci de m'aider @ bientot
Re: DM anglais
Posted: 20 Feb 2007 23:20
by Maïwenn
Voici mes corrections
QUESTION 1: What do you konw about john lennon's origins? What are this position and mood in the song and how do you explain them?
Ma réponse:
John Lennon was born in Liverpool, he was a 20th-century English songwriter, singer and instrumentalist who gained worldwide fame as one of the founders of The Beatles.
The singer think
s the English and
Scots should to keep Ireland for the Irish. He was horrified by the
death of thirteen civilians in
Derry and he denounce
s this crime t
hroughout this song. Lennon lament
s about the hardships of war-torn Northern Ireland in "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
QUESTION 2: Are the date of the song and the title of the album relevant?
The John Lennon album "Some Time In New York City" features a song entitled "Sunday Bloody Sunday", inspired by the incident in Derry in 1972. This album was
produced in 1972.
Pour la question 3, c'est à toi de le faire, on ne fera pas ton exercice à ta place.

Posted: 20 Feb 2007 23:39
by Fuokusu
Tu as laissé passer le "should to keep" ? o_o
Règle générale : pas de "to" derrière les modaux !
Posted: 21 Feb 2007 04:16
by Maïwenn
Ah oui, je l'avais vu pourtant. Mais mon cerveau a dû être distrait quand j'ai relu avec mon stylo rouge en main

Posted: 21 Feb 2007 06:54
by S-Dir
merci pour les correction, je posterai mes autres réponses plus tard. Pouvez vous aussi m'indiquez si mes réponses sont cohérentes avec les questions svp merci d'avance @ Bientot !
Posted: 21 Feb 2007 10:03
by ANTHOS
Même si on sait dans quel camp politique se situe le rédacteur, je trouve un peu déplacé le manque de nuance dans les déclarations A-E.
Posted: 21 Feb 2007 10:08
by ANTHOS
En reprenant Maï
Lennon laments the hardships
Posted: 21 Feb 2007 11:18
by Maïwenn
ANTHOS wrote:En reprenant Maï
Lennon laments the hardships
Ah, merci Anthos !

Posted: 21 Feb 2007 20:49
by S-Dir
Réponse question 3:
A- Keep Ireland for the Irish
Put the English back to sea (je ne suis pas sur, pouvez vous m'aider?)
B- Not a soldier boy was bleeding
When they nailed the coffin lids
C- Keep Ireland for the Irish
Put the English back to sea (je ne suis pas sur, pouvez vous m'aider?)
D- You claim to be majority
Well you know that it's a lie
You're really a minority
voila.
QUESTION 4:
Meaning through grammar Who or what do the following words refer to?
They (l.2) : >> The army
the kids (l.6): >> killed children in derry in 1972
You (l.11): >> protestants ( mais je ne suis pas sur)
Our (l.15): >> Irish's marches
they (l.16): >> English
those mothers (l.18): >> English ( mais je ne suis pas sur)
it (l.22): >> to Send to colonise the North
a people (l.24): >> Irish people
it ( l.32): >> Ireland
merci d'avance pour les corrections car il n'était pas tres facile cette exos
QUESTION 5:
Using a brief history or your own knowledge explain the following references:
derry, this sweet emerald isle, stormont, internment, union jacks, the concentration camps, falls road, london, rome
Posted: 21 Feb 2007 21:13
by S-Dir
réponse question 5
derry: more known under the name of Londonderry, bastion city of the fight against the English domination
This sweet emerald isle: ireland is compared with an emerald, it’s precious
stormonts: the north of Ireland remained part of the united kingdom governed by "stormonts", a Prrotestant parliament
internement: imprisonment without trial for all terrorist suspects
Union Jacks: flag of United Kingdom
the concentration camps (je ne sais pas, quelqu'un a une idée?)
Falls Road: street of Belfast with dominant Catholique who is in the center of the disorders of the city.
London/ rome : return to: in 1972 after the abolition of the Parliament of Stormont, London controls Northern Ireland directly
voila, pas facile non plus cet exos, si quelqu'un comprend un peu plus que moi, merci de me corriger @ bientot
en attendant mes autres réponss si quelqu'un pourrait m'aider :
QUESTION 6:
Which of the two songs takes sides most clearly? Justify your answer
http://licorne.jmt.free.fr/musique/shee ... sbsly.html
et
http://www.otania.com/data/19334.txt
@ bientot, et merci beaucoup
Posted: 22 Feb 2007 17:22
by S-Dir
personne pour m'aider???
c'est pour demain
up
Posted: 22 Feb 2007 18:04
by Beaumont
U2 je ne les ai jamais entendu prendre un autre parti que celui de la paix...

Posted: 22 Feb 2007 19:28
by S-Dir
merci beaumont

si quelqu'un aurait dautre élément a m'apporter.
réponse question 6 :
I think U2 song's is most clearly because his expressions are concrets whereas in John lennon song's there is expressions abstract.
question 7:
Which one suggests tiredness of a neverending, sterile struggle? quote relevant lines.
Posted: 22 Feb 2007 19:57
by S-Dir
In U2 song's, quotes suggests tiredness never ending:
How long, how long must we sing this song ?
And the battle's just begun
There's many lost, but tell me who has won?
question 8
Pick out slogans, insults and images of war and religion from the lennon song. what vieew of irish history does it give?