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several papal bulls:
Consideratis circumstantiis(1219)
Parens scientiarum(1231)
Quaerantes in agro(1254)
Quasilignum vitae(1225)
Scholaribus universes(1217)
Super Speculam(1219)

I do not know how to translate these into English!
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Sorry my english is not terrible, and medieval latin without context, it is quite hard ! i don't know how to qualify the result. Looking at it now, it "doesn't mean" anything ! :-?

Having considered the circumstances 1219,
Father of (or obeying to) the knowledges 1231
Calling for in the field 1254
quasilignum of the life 1225
Sth's universal by the guardians 1217
Above the mirror 1219

several papal bulls:
Consideratis circumstantiis(1219)
Parens scientiarum(1231)
Quaerantes in agro(1254)
Quasilignum vitae(1225)
Scholaribus universes(1217)
Super Speculam(1219)

I do not know how to translate these into English!
Thanks!
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Post by Sisyphe »

Titles of a papal bulls are ever the first words of its first sentence. So that it does not have a plain meaning.

I do confirm Inès' translations. I just add that :

quasilignum of the life 1225
"quasilignum" does not exist, even in maedieval latin, I checked for. It must be : quasi lignum vitae "as though / as if / like the line of life"

Scholaribus universes(1217)
Sth's universal by the guardians 1217
-> "Scholaris" means "soldier of the guard" but also "student, pupil, disciple" at Midde-Age. "Scholaribus" : by the students (ablative) or to the students (dative).
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I cannot add anything : Ines and Sisyphe made the best with the few words of the tiltes. To give more precise answers, we would need the whole texte of the first sentences ; 'cause very often, the title which was given to a bull only takes the 2 or 3 first words, without always looking for a sense. If it is very important, I can have a look and find those bulls (or maybe you already have the complete text ?).
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About "Parens scientiarum", I just had a look to the complete text : It concerns the city of Paris, and it is sometimes translated as "mother of the sciences".

Tell us if you need more.
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Yup !
Thanks to add more informations, it's quite interesting !
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thanks you!

Post by sunnnyi »

Thank you all!
If these titles of papal bulls mean nothing, I do not know how to deal with them because I need translate them into Chinese finally. :(
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