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hi , i am so glad to be here with you
if you do not mind , can i know the language that jesus was speaking with , and how can i find a dictionary for it on the web ?

please , please help me , and how can i get access to the old language

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Hello. I am pretty sure that the languages were Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek - the main languages spoken in the region at the time

Greek not Latin would have been the lingua franca (contrary to what Mel Gibson might have us believe)

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In the period Jesus lived, the commun language was Aramaic.
Geroa ezta gurea...
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and the on-line Brown-Driver-Briggs dictionary of Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic shows the ancient Aramaic word when it differs from ancient Hebrew
-- Olivier
Se nem kicsi, se nem nagy: Ni trop petit(e), ni trop grand(e):
Éppen hozzám való vagy! Tu es juste fait(e) pour moi!
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As Anthos and Gilen said, Aramaic and Greek were presumably the most used tongues in Palestine at Chist's time.

In order to be most precise, we could say that

- Jewish people, and specially the lower classes, spoke Aramaic, an evolved form of classical Hebrew.
- Jewish upper classes, strangers (egyptians, phenicians, syrians salesmen) and perhaps the major part of roman troops spoke Greek as "lingua franca" ; not exactly the athenian classical Greek, but the "koinè" (word-for-word "the common <language>").
- Only the upper roman officers and gouvernors spoke latin.
- Hebrew was used for religion, as it still be. Not elsewhere.

In east Mediterranean see, 90 % of the inscriptions and papyri are written in greek.

For we do not know "who" was exactly Jesus, we could not answer on what language HE spoke to his consorts. Maybe aramaic. Linguists and theologists are discussing into knowing in what languages the Gospels were written. In Aramaic or Greek. Maybe in greek.

PS : as I always say, you should excuse for my English, and could correct it if you want by PM. I would be grateful.
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Sisyphe wrote:Jewish people, and specially the lower classes, spoke Aramaic, an evolved form of classical Hebrew.
"Evolved" is not the apropriate term ! Aramaic and Hebrew are two semitic languages, but Aramaic is not an evolved form of Hebrew...

Concerning the language spoken by Jesus, if you believe the New Testament, when Jesus was crucified, he said "Eli, Eli, lama sabakhtani" ("My God, My Gog, why did you abandon me" - written in phonetic in the original greek text : Mc XV:34).
Actually, it corresponds to the hebrew text of Ps 22:2 which is "Eli, Eli, lama azavtani".

The verb "sabakhtani" is aramaic, not hebrew !
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I believed it - but you must be right, Gilen, because my knoweldges in semitic languages are not very deep.

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anthos , gilen , olivier , sisyphe , you made me happy

i can not say anything after what i saw

this historical information could help me .

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