the comparison of slavic languages...

[Demona]

Well, well.......

Somebody had been very cheeky during this week.....

Demona I really-really do not know what is that suppose to mean, but if you feel better now because you have showed up your knowledge, be happy, coz you managed it!!!

poor you...you don`t get it, do you? allow me to explain:

the post mentioned above was supposed to hint that it is practically impossible to discuss anything (here: languages) if you dont know what you are talking about. in this case it is a language, therefore, one should know it. otherwise, you have a lot of chances to get information not worth getting. in addition, you could just open some google or something and find stuff you want to know written by professionals....however, it is not my problem to worry about the level of data you`re going to receive...heh

I didn't mean that she has to be turbo-super good in slavic language, only that she writes some things that she knows...ok??????

see the post above.

<Try to write something util..........bye till the next time

i will certainly do that when i see a decent question.
have a nice day,
Demona

[Demona]

And second, stop the fight!!

who`s fighting? ....just trying to point out that discussing "thank you" is limited by the fact that this phrase has meaning and, obviously, can be translated into different languages. that`s it.

well, to tighted up all screws, one can discover that it contains eight characters and one space. of course, we can continue and discuss each character independently....but a....i`m not sure it would make a lot of sense...

[anabelle]

and speaking of great things, ja sam vrlo dobro, a ti?
gdje živiš i koliko imaš godina(years) hehehehe

Coming back to the topic...
Ja sam iz Polskje iz Varšave. (About the age – personal data protected.)
It’s really a pity i can’t find anywhere any polish-croatian dictionnary. I didn’t find also any books in PL on learning croatian. All expressions i know in croatian are the result of my thorough Internet exploration.
But there is a possibility that i’ll go to Croatia to spend there some time (maybe even to settle down there, who knows) so it would be the best way to learn the language..

About “strange letters” in polish, we have some that look funny for foreigners (i only hope that those letters can be visible in the computers abraod..): ą, ę, ó, ć, ś, ń, ź, ż, ł. That’s why the word thank you is actually written: “Dziękuję”. A “ż” corresponds to your “ž” and “ź” letter you read in a soft way (zi), similar to french “gi” (f.ex. Gilette, Giscard)

By the way, could you tell me how to address a person you love in croatian (sth like “my love, honey, sweetheart” etc.)? i'll be grateful...

Pozdrawiam, Anabelle

[bambino]

Hi again anabelle, i really enjoy to speak with you...

If you like so much croatian, come here, and study it at university, why not?
It's not difficult to enter because not so many students want to study it beacause it is a very difficult language...but the main problem is that for every language you want to study it, you have to read books, books and.....books
We also can study polish here at our university of Zagreb and to be honest with you, many people study it. The students from Zagreb are really crazy and we like to study everything what is not usual...

I think you have too a uni where you can study languages, so ...can you study croatian there???

To adress a loving person you can say it in different ways, for example:
DRAGA (female)
DRAGI(male) -->dear, darling

DUŠO-->literally soul, but it means aswell darling, sweetheart
LJUBAVI-->love (the sounds "LJ" and "NJ" pronounce as LJ-->lj in russian ljubov or as in italian "gli", spanish mallorca; NJ--> ń
MICEK(male);MICICA(female)-->pussy , but not in a way you think.... as a kitten lol, and it's very popular now hehehehehe
SREĆO-->my felicity or my luck

[anabelle]

Hi Bambino!
Thank you for expressions in croatian. Zivjeli!!!
Actually we can study croatian language at many universities in PL and it is more and more popular to study. In my opinion, it's like that because a lot of Polish people spend now their holidays in Croatia and come back fascinated by your country!
At the moment, i don't plan to go to Croatia for this simple reason that in 3 months i'm going to France to continue my studies there. Maybe after? who knows..
In that perspective, could you tell me if there was a chance that i could find people in Zagreb willing to have classes or conversations in polish, as you said there are students who study that language? And is there a possibility at the univ. in Zagreb to study croatian for foreigners?
Ciao!

[bambino]

Hi

Of course there are many students willing to speak polish and you can find them on the forum of the university of Zagreb. The adress is: http://forum.ffzg.hr/

there you will find subjects and search about "SLAVENSKI JEZICI"-it means slavic languages, i know you knew it
create a new subject or you could find something interesting...try to write in Polish or in English....POLISH=POLJSKI; POLAND=POLJSKA
Well i don't think that there is a possibility at the uni...,but for sure you can find lots of schools for foreign languages, and in each school there is a croatian for strangers. I know the best school in Zagreb and you can learn it in few months perfectly!!! It's so great that polish people like croatian...i suppose you have known that croatian is the most melodical slavic language,haven't you?

i hope you shall come here this summer and we could find each other, right?

ŽIVJELA MOJA ANABELLA!!!!!

[bambino]

pobywaj dobra, zdrowa i ladna

I know it's terrible, but as you see, i also like polish

[bambino]

FLASH NEWS:

I went to the university of Zagreb and i have seen that there is a possibility to study Croatian for foreigners as well, so my dear anabelle, you are welcome

see ya soon!!!!!

[anabelle]

Hi Bambino! (<--that's exactly what i'm doing now )
Thank you for all information!!! Unfortunately sometimes i can't reply immediately to messages cause i have crazy days at work recently..

Do you study at Zagreb University? At what faculty?
About polish-croatian relations, do you know that Croatian people first live on the territories which are now in Poland (near Cracow - Polish most beautiful and historical city), they had their capital called Hrvat; there, and those territories were called the White Croatia; (maybe because of snow, more frequent here?). In 7th century they moved (was it too cold ?) south, to the Balkans.
In this region which is now the southern region of Poland, live people who speak a regional dialect which, as i noticed recently, has a very similar accent to the croatian language, maybe it's a coincidence, but who knows?
Recently I've been to that place with my boyfriend (who is a Croat of course - that's another aspect of polish-croatian relations) and told him that i took him to the territory of his ancestors.
ciao!

[SubEspion]

Here are all the informations that I can say to you.

Croatian

Croatian is that form of Serbo-Croatian spoken by Yugoslavia's Croatian
population and written in the Roman alphabet. Except for their scripts,
Croatian and Serbian are really the same language, though a slightly
different intonation. For the word Train, the Serbs generally say Voz as
against Croatian Viak. In each case, however, both alternatives are
understand perfectly well by everyone.

The Croatian language is used in Croatia, Austria and Serbia. It is a
language of the East European family as I know. Sjedi tako Filip u
sutonu, sluša rodu na susjednom dimnjaku kako klepeće kljunom kao
kastanjetom. Is was an example of the language.

Serbian

Serbian and Croatian are generally considered one language, combined
under the single term Serbo-Croatian. The Serbo-Croatian is the most
important language of Yugoslavia, where it is spoken by 8 000 000
people or about 80 % of the population. The Serbs, however, call their
language Serbian and being of Eastern Orthodox religion, write it in a
modified form of the Russian alphabet. The Roman Catholic Croats call
their language Croatian and employ the Roman alphabet. Street signs
in Yugoslavia are written in both alphabets.

This language is used in Croatia and in Serbia. It is a language of the
East European family. То је био афрички слон. It was a really small
example because Russian alphabet is not my speciality .

Slovenian

Slovenian is the official language of the new Republic of Slovenia spoken
by about 90 % of the country's 2 000 000 people. I do not know a lot of
things about this language.

This language is used in Austria, in Italy ans in Slovenia. It is a language
of the Indo-European family. Takrat se je prikazal petelin na Sitarjevi
strehi.

Russian

Russian is the most important of the Slavic languages and now one of
the major languages of the world. With English, French, Spanish,
Chinese and Arabic, Russian is one of the six official languages of the
United Nations.

Here is a division of the Russian language by populations with the help
of a site.

Russia → 145 000 000
Ukraine → 12 000 000
Kazakhstan → 8 000 000
Belarus → 3 500 000
Uzbekistan → 2 500 000
Latvia → 1 000 000
Moldova → 600 000
Azerbaijan → 500 000
Turkmenistan → 400 000
Lithuania → 350 000
Armenia → 50 000
United States → 250 000
Canada → 40 000

Russian is written in the Russian alphabet and it is really not difficult to
learn it. A number of letters are written and pronounced approximately
as in English while others, though written as in English are pronounced
differently.

This language is used in Russia, in Belarus, in Kazakhstan, in Armenia,
in Austria, in Azerbaijan, in Estonia, in Israel, in Ukraine, in Georgia, in
in Lithuania, in Latvia, in Canada, in United States, in Moldova, in
Tadjikistan, in Turkmenistan and in Uzbekistan. It is an Indo-European
language. Что это ? Я падаю ? У меня ноги подкашиваются.

Czech

Czech is the official language of the Czech Republic spoken by 10 000
000 people and is closely related to Slovak. Czech is a Slavic language
write with the Roman alphabet. The letters Q W and X are missing and C
is pronounced TS, CH as in German.

Czech is spoken in United States and in Czech Republic. It is an Indo-
European family language. Já vím, ten romantik ve mnĕ, to byla
maminka.

Slovak

Slovak is the official language of Slovakia, spoken by about 90 % of the
country's 5 000 000 people. It is similar to Czech to be considered by
some as merely a dialect. Slovak word for Slovak is Slovensky' and
Slovenian word for Slovenian is Slovinsky' so not to be confused.

It is spoken is Slovakia and it is an Indo-European language. Čím
menšie je niečo, tým váčšmi krićí.

Polish

Polish is spoken by almost 35 000 000 people. By about 700 000 in
United States and by smaller groups in Lithuania, Ukraine, Canada,
Brazil and other countries. Polish is written in the Roman alphabet
including acute accents, dots, hooks and a bar.

It is spoken in Israel, in Ukraine, in Lithuania, in Poland, in Latvia, in
Brazil, in Canada and in United States. It is an Indo-European language.
Mateusz się porwał w ten mig do niego, ale nim mógł zmiarkować co
bądź, już Antek skoczył jak ten wilk wściekły, chycił go jedną ręką za
orzydle.

I wish these informations will help you.

[helena]

Here are all the informations that I can say to you.

Croatian

Croatian is that form of Serbo-Croatian spoken by Yugoslavia's Croatian
population and written in the Roman alphabet. Except for their scripts,
Croatian and Serbian are really the same language, though a slightly
different intonation.

SubEspion, before pasting something you should verify what the text is saying. You live in Italia, you should know that Yougoslavia doesn't exist anymore ant that the country on the other side of Adriatic is Croatia and the Croatians speak croatian.

[helena]

Here are all the informations that I can say to you.

Croatian

Croatian is that form of Serbo-Croatian spoken by Yugoslavia's Croatian
population and written in the Roman alphabet. Except for their scripts,
Croatian and Serbian are really the same language, though a slightly
different intonation.

SubEspion, before pasting something you should verify what the text is saying. You live in Italia, you should know that Yougoslavia doesn't exist anymore ant that the country on the other side of Adriatic is Croatia and the Croatians speak croatian.

[helena]

sorry for posting my message twice, I had a connection problem and I couldn't see what is happening

[bambino]

Hello anabelle, what's up, ha?

Well, I see that you are very, very informed about Croatia and Croatian...
In 17th and 18th century, one of our big teachers(Croat) went to Moscow to talk with a Russian king and he (Križanić)--my school now , told him that Croatian is the most beautiful Slavic language, so MY language supposed to be spoken all around Slavic languages then, but the king said maybe it could be possible IF we give to Russia our beautiful coast...
Of course, our coast is too precious and Croatian is still spoken only in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and it's the second official language in Austria after German
Croatian and Serbian ARE NOT,NOT,NOT,NOT,NOT the same languages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like I say now Spanish and Italian are the same languages, Czech+Slovak, Russian+Ucrainian....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE BE CAREFUL, OK???

Anabelle, you told us a great story, of course i know it, but Croats are "warm nation" as Spaniards and Italians, and we need sea, Mediterrane, etc....
And you are right, Cracow is a really nice town, and you know why(because we lived there ) I'M JUST KIDDING!!!

EX >Serbo-Croatian was a bit bigger i think.....not only 8, but 12 millions of people have spoken it then, now in Croatia only 5 and in Serbia 7 mil.

People take care.....kisses...bye

[bambino]

SubEspion, shame on you!!!
Italy and Croatia are so close to each other and you still don't know what language do we speak here?!?!?!?!?!?!

We share border!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and you don't know it?!?!?!

OK.....i hope you should remember it from now on....please!!!!!