IRISH TO ENGLISH [edit: not Irish but Latin]

spazznkrash · Post by **spazznkrash** » 16 Aug 2007 10:13

This is at the bottom of my family crest. SUB HOC SIGNO VINCES. I think it means under this sign we will conquer. Am I right, or even close? Please Help

decay · Post by **decay** » 16 Aug 2007 21:29

And what about "hello", "good evening".. whatever?

Last of it, I'll let the latin speakers check if you're right.

That's not Irish, never was and never gonna be.

Beaumont · Post by **Beaumont** » 17 Aug 2007 05:01

"Please" was in the question, "Hello" is not mandatory. And the request was correctly formulated, with a proposition and the context, so let's relax.

It is indeed Latin, maybe "under this sign you conquer".

spazznkrash · Post by **spazznkrash** » 17 Aug 2007 08:34

Thank you for your assistance and please excuse my ignorance. Indeed it is Latin and with that help I was able to do a few more searches and find the final meaning. It is "Under this sign, conquer".

Again...Thank you both

pc2 · Post by **pc2** » 17 Aug 2007 23:25

salutations,

this phrase, "sub hoc signo vinces", can also mean "under this sign, you will succeed". the "sign" here refers to the cross of the Christianity, and this message is said to have been seen by the Byzantine (oriental part of the Roman empire) emperor Constantine (and that's why, according to the story, the Catholicism was adopted by the Roman empire).

salutations,

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » 31 Aug 2007 20:05

pc2 wrote:the "sign" here refers to the cross of the Christianity, and this message is said to have been seen by the Byzantine (oriental part of the Roman empire) emperor Constantine (and that's why, according to the story, the Catholicism was adopted by the Roman empire).

more historical details for instance here (Wikipedia)
-- Olivier